If it goes under the wall then out the other side like that in the vid, its fine - but doing it runs the risk for the player of having it get stuck under the wall and flashbugging, which is definitely NOT legal.

i thought drax maps fixed that?

its definitely still possible to flashbug on draps maps - whether or not its possible at that specific spot im uncertain

yeh agreed ^^

Definitely allowed, had a big convo about it this afternoon and there's really no reason not to, as for daves comment of 'running the risk' of flash bugging you always run the risk of flash bugging ramp box each time u flash near that or off the box so that should not be a reason for banning it. Less policing the better iMo.

yeh i was saying its legal, but its up to the player if they want to take that risk

Blatant EAC evasion.

yO, the back story to this is umm, PeetyG disputed us for trying to use that flash in the CG ladder match last week. Anyway the dispute was overturned but I think it has prompted admins to make a ruling on whether it's legitimate one way or the other.

The arguement that the people against the flash have made in the community, is that you're not allowed to look under that wall, so anything to do with that gap is illegal. I don't care either way about whether it is banned from this date onwards or not, i'm just offering a contrasting arguement. Perhaps it shouldn't be illegal because to flash over the walls on inferno you've gotta nade through a sky box as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFCCC9rwWdQ

The above is a vid of sylix and i doing the flash in a server, then the second clip is kHRYSTAL from Lions using the same technique in their game vs immunity just this morning at the World Cyber Games. I'd like to think of my team as innovators not cheats :))

Also; i didn't add in game sound to the video because I'm at work and couldn't be fucked with it.

will khrystal be banned from the cg ladder / dicenats as a result?

CHEATS MAN

wheres my 3 points

its still a bug if the flashbang goes black and makes no sound like it does here. its a bug.

secondly khrystal threw a nade not a flash

Don't see how it matters which nade is used, sometimes on inf when you flash over the wall you don't even see it before it explodes, don't see how this is different at all.

You hear it but. this flash you don't hear or see, its the very definition of a flashbug. Secondly it does matter i could place money that if khrystal wanted to throw a flash instead of a nade he wouldn't of used that nade technique

Is there an exact clip of what actually happened in the CG match? Because theres literally no way the flash in the OP's video should be illegal.

dave scott fucked it up twice and it just bounced back in 5 isle and blinded him LOL. we were going for the whole, counter flash vines from 5 isle under the wall.. effect.

so yes, we were disputed because we intended to use a flash that may or may not be illegal

scott finding a new innovative way of blinding himself and his team mates

sam if you throw it properly it makes a noise and you see it pop. i dont see how thats a flashbug

its like any other flash, it just happens to come out from under the wall? D:

and lol yer im a retard..

attempted flash bug is like attempted murder

should still be punished noobs

attempted potential flashbug*
we shud get sommi to crunch the numbers like in his wcg thread and get us a realistic probability to work with in enforcing this so we have the correct numbers to punish off

just accept the loss you bad sports.

so any flash while trying to take ramps on nuke is an attempted flash bug since the box is pretty close to where the nades land.

Or even better, anyone who plants the bomb near the edge on dust2, surely thats attempted silent plant ?

ohh paul

thats how you took it last night gomez... why else would u deliberately flash bug 5 rounds in a row after we accidentally did at ramps?

what are u talking about gomez didn't even play u last night ???

LOL ok

stop cheating online chiz

dont u play with striker tho?

wait so the dispute was someone attempting to do it? LOL..

yeah the dispute was me "trying to fbug"

wat a waste of time

but let it be known scott is a gay cunt for trying to flashbug and should be banned from acting like a mad cunt.

sponny shut your mouth fatboy

chews gum... dum cunt

hey man hows iM going ?

uR doing it wrong!!!

For all those who wonder why this occurred...

After the game ended i was told by a few people watching that scott had flash bugged. I immediately PM'd beedee and informed him of this and asked him to review the HLTV. He told me he couldn't do it right away and I had limited time to dispute the result on the CG website. So i disputed the result without actually ever having seen the HLTV because by the time i viewed it the time frame in which i could dispute the flash bug would have expired.

Had i seen the HLTV where Scott missed the flash twice then obviously I would never have disputed the result as trying to flash bug is in no way illegal and in no way was i ever arguing this point.

The purpose of this thread from screams POV I'm sure was simply to ask the 1.6 community if we wanted that particular flash bug policed or if it was legitimate, not to rule on this particular incident.

Peet more like Feet.

so was a decision made?

imo it should be allowed!

ah kk fair enough pete

IMO this flash should be allowed.

However in relation to your clip BurtoN, whether it is a nade or a flash makes a difference, and the angle of the camera showing the width of the wall actually cuts out the nade all together.. So that's not the best example lol

In regards to whether it is considered a nade or flash bug if it makes sound or is visible etc.. A good example is the carpet nade in ferno from second mid over the window roof.. It's allowed in the pros, no reason why we can't use nades based on that same principal =/

My 2 cents anyway.

fuck your 2 cents oreo

LOL BEAR FROM SEA