So what does that mean for counter-strike? How many rego's do they want?

and is it me or are the prizes actually huge for a qualifier?

Ok im beginning to get excited

So many questionsssss

Are they charging a door fee instead of rego fees? I might be reading it wrong but it just says, Entry: $40.

Red Carpet Gaming:

CityHunter WAN (June 25th ) – Sydney
AV Con (July 22nd – 24th) – Adelaide
Brisbane PC Qualifier (August) – Brisbane
Melbourne PC Qualifier (August) – Melbourne
Red Bull Qualifiers (September) – Sydney
Secret Last Chance Qualifier!!!
EB Expo National Finals (October 15th – 16th)

World Cyber Games:

AV Con (July 22nd – 24th) – Adelaide
Brisbane Console WCG event (July) – Brisbane
Melbourne Console WCG event (August) – Melbourne
Sydney Red Bull Qualifiers (September) – Sydney
EB Expo National Finals (October 15th – 16th)

What the fuck is going on with this list lol

will they be keeping the cash on site?

hahahahaha wallah!

SO does that mean the QLD lan quals for 1.6 are in ausgust?

hope they know what theyre doing

Counter-Strike 1.6 5v5 Prizes: *

First Place - Free flights and accommodation to National Finals + $750 cash + $2000 in prizes

Second Place – Free flights and accommodation to National Finals + $500 cash + $1000 in prizes

Third Place – $250 cash + $750 in prizes

Counter-Strike 1.6′s inclusion and prizes will depend on registration numbers.

Those prizes are so not going to happen

the prizes will happen, the cash is more unlikely

$5000 in prizes is literally just handing out 15 monitors that were probably used on the day

or a samsung galaxyS which is like $800 RRP still

Pretty sure the only thing we're gonna get are tickets overseas

id take it :D

anyone know how many invites for each state?

hope its a boss with a 16 team nats with 4 4 4 to the main stats and then maybe 1 WA and 2 wildcars?

Edit SA are horrible 2 wildcards imo

guys from what i hear there is ONLY going to be 8 team national finals

2 vic
2 NSW
2 QLD
2 LCQ maybe online

Hopefully this doesnt discourage teams to participate, regardless off the results it definately seems like an event worth attending

looooooooool

these guys really have no idea LOL

id attend, oh wait.

cya in adelaide

8 teams smart

RedCarpetGaming apparently 'Spin Off' events which some count to qualifying and some dont, games being run like source and TF2? which arent in the competition, sweet

SO does that mean the QLD lan quals for 1.6 are in ausgust?




... LOL

can somebody with experience/common sense please explain whats going on for 1.6

thanks

Finding out for you all now

i like dragon

"Just to let you know guys, we are supporting as many of the major games as possible, and not just the WCG titles, as we want to grow the whole community. But we need evidence this can work, so the more teams, the more likely (and the bigger the prizes) at the future qualifiers/events."

Posted by one of the organisers on CG.

So basically I've had a chat with Casua1ty who's the event organiser. He will pretty much be in charge of WCG and Red Carpet Gaming events for this year. Hopefully he will be jumping on dice later tonight to clear up any further issues so I will just lay it down broadly.

What we need to do is to just get as many teams as possible to the quals.

The first qual (Syd) needs to get enough interest and teams for 1.6 to ensure that quals are then run at Melb and Bris (Talking like 10+ teams, but it's a very loose number). Then on top of that the whole comp needs to get a lot of interest to make sure we have 1.6 at the EB Expo.

If we can get enough interest, then we are talking 16 teams at EB ideally. Casua1ty would love to have more but would also run with less, it all depends on how keen the community is and how much interest we pick up. If we don't have enough interest then it's just the qualifiers that will be run.

As far as getting a team overseas, that's the biggest cost obviously and will depend on everything I have already mentioned. It's gotta be justifiable because no one wants to send a team overseas with only 20 spectators...

In the end, Casua1ty is an ex-cs'r and I'm sure a lot of you know him as well, he has our interests at heart and will be very flexible to make something work. The ball's really in our court to make it happen.

Keen up

Information breeds interest.

sounds fucking awful

#31

LETS DO THIS BOYS

Its pretty hard for us to show interest in a qualifier that doesn't exist yet...

predictions:

8 teams for syd qual
7 teams for melb qual
6 teams for qld qual

0 teams for s.a.
0 teams for w.a.

12 teams for online last chance qual

predictions:

16 teams for syd qual
20 teams for melb qual
16 teams for QLD
6 teams for S.A
10 teams for W.A

32 Team last chance qualifier, is this going to be a 32 team nationals like they were back in the days when i was around?

Would also be keen to play for a Melbourne team if anybody needs a 5th.

Hey Guys, sorry about not getting to Dice earlier :( someone beat me to the punch :P

First things first, Chiz and rizE, love you to buddies :)

Drag0n has pretty much summarized our conversation excellently (thanks Drag0n :D), but to just add onto it, there's a couple of rough goals I have setup to justify to my bosses running these events. The first, is we do nothing. :( This is probably around the 8 team or less mark. The second is that we run the competition, we put up the cash and the prizes (and yes Gomez, the prizes are 100% happening, tls isn't a small organization, they cant just dog out on promising something and then running away - nor would I work with them if I thought they were anything like that). I would probably be able to justify this to my bosses at around 8-12 teams or so. Stage 3 is running CS 1.6 events in other cities and seeing what interest we get there as well (these would have cash and prizes as well of course). If there's enough support, I will then arrange flights and accommodation (and VIP entry to the EB Expo :D), and we will hold a National competition, starting initially with just cash and prizes, however if more and more interest is there, we will start sourcing funds to send a team overseas.

I know this sounds kind of dicey and harsh, but when I took on the job, tls told me "we are running SC2, Fifa and Tekken". I kinda went... uhhh wtf, what about LoL (a game I am sure all of you care about :P but there's a community for it to) and CS. So the compromise we reached was if CS shows enough interest, I can run it, but if it dosent, it dosent happen. So unfortunately we either do it this way, or CS just dosent happen at all.

If things dont work out, Drag0n also mentioned arranging the costs to send a team overseas (roughly 20k), and I said sure, I will do all the work and paperwork to get them into the WCG as Australia's entry, however I hope it dosent come to that :)

So TL;DR, Its all down to you guys. I want to run a National CS comp and send a team overseas, but I cant just pull 75k to run a National competition for something with no support.

If anyone has any questions, I troll all these forums most of the day (cept when in meeting as I was all day today), so leave a post and question, or PM me (or PM me and ask for e-mail/MSN/Steam).

Its kinda hard for the community to show interest in something that we're not even sure will go ahead, and with no information whatsoever about it. If you actually want interest to be shown then the we need to know far more details like:

- dates of all state qualifiers so teams can organise themselves and know which qual they'll go to (due to interstate teams etc).
- numbers of teams that qualify at each qual (like at the syd qual theres 2 paid spots - but would about unpaid invite spots like what theres been at every other 1.6 nats? etc).
- number of spots at the nationals (8? 16?).
- who's physically running the cs competition and do they know what they're doing, do they need any help, etc.
- when does registration open and how is it done (via that website im assuming - if not dice would be happy to help out with taking registrations for the cs comp).
- once registration has begun for qualifiers, keep team/player lists so we know whos attending and can be kept up to date etc.

The way it seems atm its just how its been the past 4 years @ wcg (horrible) with people from outside of the community running things who have no idea how things have been done in the past and should been done properly, and for some reason dont get help from people inside the community.

My suggestion would be to get help asap from someone who has a lot of experience running these kinds of competitions so that it can actually be done properly for once (ie. myself, beedee, unpro, gomez, many others).

And also its really quite hard for everyone (especially people not from sydney) to keen up and show interest when we literally have no idea whether or not our state qualifier will even run as it purely depends on whether or not sydney gets enough teams (which in the past has generally had the lowest average turnouts compared to melbourne/brisbane).

Also i may just be speaking for myself here although id bet many would agree with me - while those prizes look fantastic, they're not really quite necessary, and especially if its the difference between the event actually running or not.
Is it possible to lower/remove prizes (except for the top 2 team's paid flights) while gauranteeing the event and all qualifiers will happen 100% (and just have prizes for the EB event not the qualifiers)?

^ this

theres key people in each state and about 3 LAN cafe's (2 really) that are playable for counter-strike 1.6. Those key people and the LAN cafes, elysium mcity and istar-(lol) should run the entire qualification side of things because we know what todo and how to run it

You should just fund the event and dont come near it

'We might be able to send a team overseas'

Why would anyone even play if they cant get overseas from you guys? I can get my own organisation to pay for my teams trip if we played and won rofl.

jokers

Read over davestrizls posts aswell cos hell put it nicer

I've helped run the 1.6 side of this event on a national scale for the past 2 years, and been involved prior to that. In my experience the most crucial error organisations make, and repeatedly make is not getting the information out early enough for people to generate interest. This is not just limited to the 1.6 side of things. Last year the FIFA competitors were given a week's notice for the national qualifier, and not much was different in 2009 where all games (FIFA, Guitar Hero and CS 1.6) were given similarly short notice to attend the national final. A competitor flew from Adelaide to Sydney with 3 days notice to attend the guitar hero qualifier. People are there waiting for the information, however need the time to plan and organise their attendance at the event.

You need to market the event to teams as well, and given the somewhat tattered reputation WCG has given itself over the last 4 years, generating interest is more than just posting information on a website somewhere on the internet and hoping people will find it. This can still work, and work very well, you just need to get the information out there and teams will come. Building, and hoping they will come will simply not be enough.

I feel your pain though, as last year I was given 2 weeks to organise an entire nations worth of qualifiers (wouldn't have happened without the help of people like davestr1zl, beedee, gomez, pacman) and was then ousted at the final notice, being told I would not be flown to Sydney to help run the final. However, that's another story.

guys this is going to be harsh but it is true, the event people apart from casualty dont care about the this community. its basically, here's the event if you want to play 1.6 then show up on the day and play no promises of a nationals.

sadly this is reality, past years no matter how shit they were the MAIN "focus" was on 1.6. as for this year, the more corporate side of things the event organizers dont really care about the communities of the gaming world.

they just put the event out (date, time, games) and whoever hears about it (DOING research finding out yourselves) plays. this might not sit well with the 1.6 community but just got to learn to adjust to these situations.

i know it sucks, but its what we have. the more privatized something gets the voices of the community gets drowned, and neglected. bottom line its going to be a different WCG not community based, more of a corporate based planned event.

just have to find the information where ever it might be.

Ambitious project. We really need more details, it's hard to commit to an event with such limited details.

;(

id love to play if a team needs a 5th pm me here or mirc :D:D:D

i will definitely field a team for the chatswood ch if this is happening!