get in ear headphones

ipod headphones are a great choice

www.head-fi.org

Good place to go for information

as is www.headphones.com.au

But head-fi is much bigger and has a much wider range of information. Not to mention the bias behind headphones.com.au

Isn't head-fi where you got your original opinion from in regards to open vs closed headphones?

Also, I don't see how we can have informative discussions on dicevip with admins like 'Drag0n' who seem to nuke any post they dislike.

My original opinion was based on science. The open vs closed discussion is not what makes a headphone sound worse. Prove to me scientifically that just because a headphone has an infinite baffle means that it will not sound good or even perform to the standards of an open headphone. There are plenty of them out there including the example of the R10 that I gave earlier. They all compete and even sometimes better their open counter-parts at their price point. That is not to say that open headphones aren't also great sounding, my two favorite headphones are open... I just don't want anyone to get the wrong idea and end up making a miss-informed decision. This is specifically the reason why I have organised the Head-Fi meet and advertised it here, I want people to get the best they can and one of the ways to do that is by hearing it for yourself.

Head-fi is the best place to go for information in my opinion, there are others but none as big as head-fi. I'm not affiliated with their site but find it a very valuable resource. This is the reason I recommend the site above others. Whilst some of it will be biased (as is the nature of a forum,) there is just too much information there to not see the truth. If you don't want to take my word for it, just go and look at the wealth of information available and make up your own mind.

I nuked / edited the posts you made Barbarian, only when they were either abusive or just clear bait i.e. 'Pre sure Sony is not even a respected brand in the industry'. I left all the valid points u raised.

If I was actually going to *censor* dice like you think I have, I would just simply remove you're access. I would love to, don't get me wrong, many of the attitudes that have developed in this community are pretty terrible to say the least... You are not trying to be helpful or informative, You're actually just being an idiot. Hopefully it has given you a cheap laugh because it looks extremely lame to everyone else.

/end rant, brb dinner

"I would just simply remove you're access"

let's not sacrifice quality for quantity here, old dragon

and bnzai is right you dont have to create such a monolithic post to return banter

I'm not trying to return banter, I'm just trying to stop it because it's not in good humor and highly redundant. I deleted the last thread because it wasn't going down the path I had hoped for when advertising the meet. I just want people to get experience and the right information before jumping into something that can cost them a lot of money, hence organising a meet. If you want to banter me for that then I don't see how I'm the lame one.

Headphones can sound amazing, don't judge til you hear them for yourself. For the money, generally headphones > speakers until you get super-high end in my opinion. Do you have experience in HiFi bnzai? Do you have a system? I'm interested to know what you've got.

Oh also, canal earphones can also sound amazing and are just as good as high quality speakers / headphones. See JH Audio or Unique Melody and the likes...

rof dragon, cant spell censor. HuRhURhUr

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Yes Jakr already knows about your animation enigma, I even left it playing on his computer at LAN. We all think it's hilarious.

s0z for not spell-checking my epic rant

You're the idiot Drag0n, I think that's been made clear to everyone.

My original point that started this entire argument was: "That you should not buy closed headphones unless you require the isolation they provide. Because closed headphones will cost you more for the same level of performance as open ones."

Which is still 100% valid you fkn douche.

So then, why do the R10's a closed phone, still provide the same level of performance as other open phones of their price.

I said this in like my 2nd post and you never addressed it and just avoided it with abuse.

Open vs closed is not what makes a headphone sound bad, there are plenty of good headphones from both sides that sound amazing and are as good or better than their competitors at their price point.

You've yet to prove to me scientifically what a closed headphone has that makes it worse than an open model... Every argument you have made, I have addressed and proven wrong.

I hope you own a pair of R10s kid’s zzzz

You know what if you go into the price range of $4000+ for closed headphones you may match some open ones for the same value.

But for the general consumer who is going to spend under $500 most likely, you would be an idiot to buy closed headphones unless you required the isolation.

So then explain the D7000 from Denon, also a very popular headphone that is closed :)

Or the D2000 or XB700/XB500 or the ATH-M50 or the TMA-1 or the HD25

As discussed in our pervious thread before it was deleted, popularity doesn’t necessarily mean good performance.

People may want isolation or like the ‘boxed in’ sound to them (where it sounds like the music is coming from inside your head) and boomier, more resonant (slower) sounding bass.

You may actually find exceptions to this basic rule, but generally speaking open headphones will provide greater performance at lower cost zzz.

my beats by dre studio editions, closed and a little 2g.

but they make my head hurt after extended use

'As discussed in our pervious thread before it was deleted, popularity doesn’t necessarily mean good performance.'

I agree, the beats are hated on head-fi as being over-hyped and over-priced whilst being very popular with the general public for their looks and marketing.

The headphones I mentioned have all been reviewed and rated well by audiophile professionals. The M50's are used by professional audio mixers as a reference headphone.

#21, you're post does not mean that a closed headphone can not be engineered to overcome the issues he talked about. As have many headphones on the market... They perform at the same level or better than their open sounding counter-parts.

Duncan stop arguing with dragon just for the sake of it you tit, silly german.

Bnzai, I asked for a difinitive reason that applies to all closed headphones, making them ALWAYS sound worse than their open counter-parts. You claim that 'the only reason you'd want to buy closed is for isolation'. This statement is not true, you have not proven it to be true, only stated it... I have given you a number of reasons why it isn't true which you don't seem to be able to address.

There are advantages to buying closed headphones beyond isolation. The D7000 is one particular 'phone that is very good and I know of music engineers who use it as a reference.

They aren't $4000, so I'm not 'spending enough money'...

If they are too expensive, then refer to the ATH-M50, also used by sound engineers as a reference and it only costs $100...

I still dont see how you can say that closed 'phones sound worse than open 'phones at their price point... It's just not true. Open vs closed is not what makes a headphone sound better or worse.

I don't think anyone in here has said ALL OPEN HEADPHONES ARE BETTER ALWAYS, but from my understanding they are saying that generally speaking, more often then not open headphones are better than closed headphones. That is a statement that any website on the internet will backup as fact.

Barbarian did... At least, when compared at the same price level. He was wrong.

What I have been putting forward is that open vs closed is not what makes a headphone sound good or bad. Instead of going, oh look a closed 'phone eww it must sound terrible. Go onto head-fi and research it. The only way to know how good a headphone sounds is to hear it for yourself, don't trust anyone elses ears.

That is a statement that any website on the internet will backup as fact.

does anyone know where to find a replacement cord for a steel series 7H headset ?? drag0n anyone??

What is on each end of the cable? One would be a 1/8 inch male, what is the end that plugs into the headset?

Look's like a mini USB from the site but not sure... I'd probably try to contact a local Steelseries dealer and eventually Steelseries themselves if you can't find one..

Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SteelSeries-7H-USB-Cable-/230648755438?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item35b3bcb4ee

just save 2 weeks of centre link payback and get some new headphones, ull be right mate

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