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Elysium Nationals VIC Qualifier #1
 Author : 
05-04-2010 03:07pm


The registrations for the first Victorian qualifier for the Elysium Community Nationals are finally open! The qualifiers are being ran by Dicevip, and will be held at MC Internet. The winning team will be awarded an Autoberth to the Nationals in Queensland on the 29th-30th May, while the 2nd place will receive an Invite. All the information and details for registration can be found below.

Information

When: Sunday, 18th April 2010
Time: 10am start
Teams: 16
Where: MC Internet - Level 1, 276 Russell Street, Melbourne CBD
Cost: $30 per player ($150 per team)
Format: Double-elimination

Registration

To Sign up for the Qualifier, pm dave here. Make sure you include the following:
- Team name
- Full lineup
- Team captain's contact number

Teams

1. aShock - KgN, T-BeaR, nezzA, Rickeh, Snoopy
2. AA - tnyvo, jing, endless, rumeboy, beedee
3. Meteoric - VICTORRR, hellRAISER, miracleman, port, raddieyo
4. VHM - EvolutiOn, NRD, tiduS, redrum_hk, JAYZEE
5. teamtNa - bailed, beNiz, CarN, Himanka, vojnik
6. GUTS - bl4nk, dave, gamz, benoR, tba
7. MB - unleashK, fakeh, shard, CHIZ, ang
8. Explosive - Kez, Shadz, Goonz, Burkus, Peak
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1. 
 05/04/10 04:24pm
yeah nice1 :)
2. 
 05/04/10 04:45pm
is it points system over the quals like QLD quals or just placing at each qual?
3. 
 05/04/10 04:49pm
placing like standard quals, only QLD is doing the points system for this nats.
4. 
 05/04/10 05:52pm
lookin for a team, send me a pm.
5. 
 05/04/10 06:19pm
what so QLD treats it like a gamapalooza type thing to see who quals? any reason for this or just cos it's different?
6. 
 05/04/10 06:23pm
yeh, the short of it is because the qld organisers thought it would be the best method to raise the most money for the nats, but also because it gives more games/comps, makes teams stick together longer, winners from 1st qual generally dont get as much prac, etc.

all other states are doing the standard seperate quals
7. 
 05/04/10 07:59pm
that gamapalooza qual idea would be good in vic/nsw but i seriously doubt nsw would get all the teams coming back :(
8. 
 05/04/10 10:27pm
6 teams regod in qld good system
9. 
 05/04/10 10:56pm
EDITED
like dave said, QLD is doing it different for a few reasons


1. we are playing for invites only, not Autos + Invites, so the team that comes second will 100% accept the invite. Therefore by the time the third qual comes around, the top 4 will have already secured their places, meaning we are 4 teams less than the first qual.

So based on that, if we get the standard 8 team turnout which we expect, the turnout would look something like this, 8teams 6teams 4teams, essentially losing 6 lots of rego OR $900.

Now with that mind, think of elysium, a netcafe that is at least 10 times better than midcity. They command a fee much higher. In order to make that fee for the Saturday and Sunday National, we need a better turnout than 8-6-4.

I hope by forcing this format, we can get 8-8-8 which is enough to pay the hire, and provide a decent prize.

That is the main reason. there is also a few side reasons

2. Should promote team stability in QLD (something we lack)

3. The team that wins the first qualifier (in 6 days time) will not be banished from QLD lan events until Nationals, since its point system, all teams should be relatively LAN sharp for nationals.


Sponny on the other hand chooses to play with 2 interstate players, which is fine, but unable to assist in the qualifying process. So that leaves him with 3 players, 2 of which are in Hong Kong and will miss the 1st qual, and Sponny himself missing the 3rd due to his own holiday plans.

So instead of him accepting he misfortune, he decides to go on a crusade against this format claiming it's bad for grass roots CS and how its totally unfair to the under-dog, when really he is doing a terrible job of hiding his own personal motives.
10. 
 05/04/10 10:57pm
hey what's GUTS line up? I hear they are making a new addition
11. 
 05/04/10 11:01pm
yeah chizzy
12. 
 05/04/10 11:04pm
wow you 2 were quick to respond
13. 
 05/04/10 11:09pm
Now with that mind, think of elysium, a netcafe that is at least 10 times better than midcity

subtle ;)
14. 
 05/04/10 11:11pm
LOL luke
15. 
 05/04/10 11:52pm
GoMeZ u need a display pic man may i suggest a suitably framed portrait of BurtHoN?
16. 
 05/04/10 11:53pm
gomez and davestr1zl need 1 =)
17. 
 06/04/10 12:03am
i'll get one when dave does

maybe he can be Chuck Norris, and i'll be Sylvester Stalone
18. 
 06/04/10 01:39am
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kk ur turn now gomez
19. 
 06/04/10 03:55am
LOLOLOL dave whats with the random chiz in the front row, ROFLROFLROFL well edited.
20. 
 06/04/10 07:49am
can never have enough chiz
21. 
 06/04/10 08:34am
question to miles, is iM gonna qual in NSW??

:(
22. 
 06/04/10 09:26am
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GUTS - davestr0zl, gamlin, bl4nk, funb0y, chiz
23. 
 06/04/10 10:10am
where's beanoR?
24. 
 06/04/10 11:42am
ROFL striz wow
25. 
 06/04/10 12:02pm
GUTS - davestr0zl, gamlin, bl44nk, AnG, CHIZZY
26. 
 06/04/10 01:38pm
hopefully get 16 teams signed up
27. 
 06/04/10 01:51pm
id only play to hit cunts at naats
28. 
 06/04/10 02:36pm
LOL ANg
29. 
 06/04/10 04:08pm
?
30. 
 06/04/10 05:24pm
needs more steel
31. 
 06/04/10 06:03pm
is anyone gonna play all 3 quals?
32. 
 06/04/10 06:18pm
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#31 atm theres only 2 gauranteed quals, the 3rd one will only happen if there's enough interest at the first 2, so dont just expect the 3rd one to happen
33. 
 06/04/10 06:20pm
In short to all you faggots that won't register because you think you have no hope at the 1st qual. Harden the fuck up and play.
34. 
 06/04/10 06:27pm
Awww that is exactly what i was thinking of doing though :(
35. 
 06/04/10 06:28pm
may as well give invites to the first 5 teams that rego'd if no one else wants to play.
makes life a lot easier imo ;)
36. 
 06/04/10 06:49pm
who are some of the teams that are holding off cos they know they won't qual? It's 90 bucks to attend all 3 thats fair steep.
37. 
 06/04/10 06:54pm
Well like i said theres only 2 quals, so 60. If, however, there is enough interest there'll be a 3rd, and if thats the case i dont think paying extra will matter as people will have obviously showed their keen. If there isnt interest then it wont happen.
38. 
 06/04/10 07:32pm
#36
90bucks for rego + 30bux for food, so settin u bak 120bucks, and plus its double elim, so could be 15 bucks for a lan game if u lose both 2, pretty much donating to the team who wins the autoberth.
39. 
 06/04/10 07:50pm
only 2 maybe 3 my bad. but still the system is designed for people who know they're gonna qual or real keen up and coming teams - and how many of those are there? Regardless there should still be a decent turnout because there hasn't been a laan for a while aye
40. 
 06/04/10 08:03pm
I dont know why this is such a bad or 'new' thing, its not like the same system hasnt been happening for the past like 10 years in aus, dont know why its such a big deal now.

But whatever, if you dont want to play dont play, no one is forcing you to, but it really is quite shit the attitude the community has as of late :(
41. 
 06/04/10 08:07pm
where is ur team dave? why are you holding back?
chuck norris not making an appearance?
42. 
 06/04/10 08:08pm
apparently teams are scared of GUTS.
43. 
 06/04/10 08:10pm
i don't have an answer to this question but... cs has changed heaps over the past "10 years", shouldn't the way comps are run change to suit it?
I dunno just seems like the QLD way would work well everywhere
44. 
 06/04/10 08:14pm
I dont see how that way would work better for us, seeing as you are essentially forced to play all 3 comps as opposed to being able to pick and choose which you want to play. Not to mention the teams that go interstate will have to pay $90 on top off the airfares/accom/etc.

The only way cs comps could change to suit this 'new attitude' of the community is to run round-robin comps with $5 rego, and unfortunately this just isnt feesable for comps in general, let alone national qualifiers where money needs to be made for more than just lan hire costs.
45. 
 06/04/10 08:36pm
If it was $90 for 3 double-elim amateur comps where you had a chance of winning you'd sign up quick smart amuse :)

46. 
 06/04/10 08:36pm
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how much does it cost to hire MC for a day?
47. 
 06/04/10 08:39pm
A lot.
48. 
 06/04/10 08:48pm
could i get some figures?
49. 
 06/04/10 08:50pm
just under 700
50. 
 06/04/10 09:06pm
so $2400 for a qual, saying that 16teams sign up, so around $1,700 for the autoberths? :S
51. 
 06/04/10 09:28pm
amuSe the mathematician
52. 
 06/04/10 09:32pm
EDITED
Because clearly 16 teams are signed up?

We're expecting roughly 10-12 teams, which i dont think is too unreasonable? I'm sure if 16 teams actually signed up the rego could easily be lowered. (thats an assumption so dont take my word for it, i dont see why not though)
53. 
 kEZ
 06/04/10 10:38pm
EDITED
i think ud be lucky to get 10 teams tbh, no way u can plan lan events rego money for 16 teams any more tbh, just man up and pay 90 bucks, 99% of the community are old enough to be workin somewhere, for the quals its like 1 shift, stop being girls and man up! my 2cents,
54. 
 06/04/10 10:45pm
EDITED
The amount of money I've spent on LAN rego even for 2 games when I was still in school is amazing. Can't believe people still whinge about it after so many years. Man up or fuck off..
55. 
 06/04/10 10:50pm
yeh but your parents own half of china ted, they can afford it
56. 
 06/04/10 10:51pm
im actually standing up for the little guy as i was told something before i posted anything about our q qualifying situation but nice try Chris. 5 days out 6 teams rego'd looking forward to the date.
57. 
 06/04/10 11:00pm
EDITED
i think you'd be lucky to run barely even run 2 quals, with about 8 teams first qual, and like 6 2nd quals??
barely/if not just engouh for the autobirth

so with 10 teams = 1.5k
so 800 bucks for autobirth first qual

second qual there would only be like 6 teams im assuming, so 900 dollars, so only 200 dolars to autobirth, that is probaly not even running if that low teams are coming, but we'll see how keen people are!
58. 
 06/04/10 11:19pm
I know we'd be lucky to run 2 quals with good turnout, thats why we're only planning to run 2. Should there be enough interest, however, we're happy to run a 3rd (unlikely at this point).

Now that you've done the math, do you realise why it costs as much as it does? There is literally no other option but to charge as much as we do (in comps in america etc, regular rego for comps is ~$40-50 per player). This is been going on for years so i dont see why its an issue now.

Also the autoberth money is split evenly between the 2 autoberth teams from total money, not that thats really relevant just letting you know.
59. 
 06/04/10 11:59pm
who else is signing up other then GUTS?
60. 
 07/04/10 12:13am
yeh, and also prob running other event not this you can run a 10 team comp, with $15 dollars rego, and still have 50 bucks left for 1st prize, but the aim would just get lan prac and get teams prac soley for that purpose
61. 
 07/04/10 12:17am
i hear if chiz doesn't get into GUTS, he is going on a rampage to stop them qualling. i saw it in his diary.
62. 
 07/04/10 12:18am
dw mojo, chiz will go back to being a goalie in soccer
63. 
 07/04/10 12:20am
LOL
64. 
 07/04/10 12:41am
wow amuSe... stop trying dude :S
65. 
 07/04/10 01:04am
EDITED
#60 So you're saying that its never going to be possible or realistic to ever run a national competition, or a competition with any kind of prize money, or anything like that? Yes, running a 10 team comp with lower rego is possible, just not for anything bigger than a 'fun' comp.

CS would drop off far quicker than it already is if theres no incentive (other than just 'playing) to keep teams keen.
66. 
 07/04/10 01:09am
we'll there is no real incentive as it is, a few real teams, that prac it up b4 the comp, rest just play ipgn, and make slut teams.
67. 
 07/04/10 11:22am
Yer what's your point amuse? People either go to LAN to try win, or have fun. What does it matter how much the price is? It's like another day out, you go to LAN, laugh, speak to people and everybody gets along when you get there. I wish there was a LAN every week even if I was coming last it's fun to be there. Even when I was knocked out in 2 hours I was there till the end because I would have a laugh. If you actually take LAN serious then stop bitching, get a team together and practice. You're not going to get better by whinging and saying make amateur comps. If you spent time just playing properly instead of making 'slut teams' you would of been good by now. If you say you 'don't care about CS' then gtfo. It's only money kid.
68. 
 07/04/10 12:35pm
how fun is a good lan but
69. 
 07/04/10 12:47pm
fun
70. 
 kEZ
 07/04/10 12:54pm
EDITED
#67 on the money
71. 
 07/04/10 01:25pm
you gonna sign up or what kezzybabes?
72. 
 07/04/10 01:30pm
6. GUTS.v2 - dave, bl4nk, gamlin, peek, CHIZ1

there it is boys, finally regoed
73. 
 07/04/10 01:31pm
i like hanging with chiz
74. 
 kEZ
 07/04/10 01:47pm
yeah dunno what we are waiting for tbh, probs sign up tonight :)
75. 
 07/04/10 01:49pm
LOL, u guys.... :)
76. 
 07/04/10 02:03pm
wheres v300?
77. 
 07/04/10 02:09pm
#74 sweet :D
78. 
 07/04/10 02:24pm
Damn, here i was hoping benor was playing for someone decent.
79. 
 07/04/10 02:34pm
nice ipgn stats gimp
80. 
 07/04/10 03:00pm
EDITED
lewl
81. 
 07/04/10 03:16pm
i think its about time someone shot chiz/mojo
82. 
 07/04/10 03:56pm
lol why?
83. 
 07/04/10 04:25pm
lol why?
84. 
 07/04/10 04:30pm
great to see teams are signing up!
85. 
 07/04/10 04:35pm
lol why?
86. 
 07/04/10 04:37pm
loy?
87. 
 07/04/10 04:39pm
yeah why the fuck is that jim
88. 
 07/04/10 04:52pm
yeydfkisdatjm
89. 
 07/04/10 06:22pm
self-explanatory
90. 
 07/04/10 06:43pm
id watch urself around GUTS CHIZ champ ;)
91. 
 07/04/10 06:53pm
watch yourself in general coop
92. 
 07/04/10 06:55pm
Oh jimmy moves to SA and starts trouble. You're dead mate!
93. 
 07/04/10 07:01pm
i havent moved ill be back soon
94. 
 07/04/10 07:33pm
fite ?
95. 
 07/04/10 07:54pm
D;
96. 
 07/04/10 08:13pm
huge turnout
97. 
 07/04/10 08:14pm
issit
98. 
 07/04/10 08:19pm
Well in reply to #96 i personally don't want to attend with my team because i dont want to fork out $30 just to rock up and get rolled by meteoric in the first round and then go home, specifically i dont want to play a team where 4 peoeple are rushing b and hellraiser is walking up long, then when he dies blame somebody in b for not flashing him into A site, i just can't compete with teams like this, good luck to all the teams who are playing on the day as metoeric are clearly the team to beat, dreamR out.
99. 
 07/04/10 10:15pm
pretty much summ'd it up
100. 
 07/04/10 11:47pm
100rd post!
101. 
 07/04/10 11:48pm
LOL
102. 
 08/04/10 12:13am
ROFL
103. 
 08/04/10 12:52pm
whose ur team dreamdog?
104. 
 08/04/10 03:38pm
EDITED
dreamr your a vigrin for life dawggg.

any other teams gona FORK out 30 bucks and play lol. you could have prob played if you started saving last week dreamr spewing
105. 
 08/04/10 04:39pm
I've seen dreamR with the babes.
106. 
 08/04/10 04:42pm
is chiz's new alias tba?
107. 
 08/04/10 05:27pm
EDITED
Hellraiser. clearly I was joking about not attending I was just making fun of you being incredibly bad and baiting your team 84% of the time. I'll be seeing you there with my fraghat on

http://www.getprice.com.au/images/uploadimg/1266/350_DSCN4772.JPG

P.S: I've already got your team booked. If your team rushes B, I know your either going to be in mid waiting for some easy frags or in A
108. 
 08/04/10 05:40pm
dreamR out
109. 
 08/04/10 07:11pm
i thought fakeh quit lan?
110. 
 08/04/10 07:25pm
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when u beat me dreamr then you can call me bad, pretty sure you have won a total of about 3 lan games out of around 50 must get annoying throwing away your forked out cash each lan.

i dont play enough to give a fuck what u say about the way i play lol. your the shittest person Ive seen play the game and your constant cock sucking of players better than you makes me sick. go jerk off you homo maybe you should dress up as your self next lan would be even funnier. faggot lol.

edit: sign up then Bossman!
111. 
 08/04/10 08:33pm
rofl you funny guy chris
112. 
 08/04/10 09:03pm
wheres iceman's team
they should win
113. 
 08/04/10 09:16pm
hellraiser does have a point, you actually are one of the poorest scrimmers i've played with.

no offence
114. 
 08/04/10 10:26pm
dreamR, up and comer.
115. 
 09/04/10 06:11pm
ipgn super team + mysee's asians to go!
116. 
 09/04/10 06:12pm
represX's team should sign up once they've found a 5th :D
117. 
 09/04/10 06:21pm
what about the KoA guys ? v300 guys ?

118. 
 09/04/10 06:39pm
represX's team did find a 5th, vojn1k. Not sure why they aren't signing up I reminded him a fair few times already!
119. 
 09/04/10 08:59pm
ffs explosive, stop changing names.
120. 
 09/04/10 09:03pm
EDITED
I thought vojnik was in tna? good pickup for whoever
121. 
 09/04/10 09:24pm
Not sure, says vojn1k in the topic :o
122. 
 kEZ
 09/04/10 09:49pm
LOL, na mate this is the old name, reppin that shit ;)
123. 
 09/04/10 11:15pm
fuck i miss comps with 8+ teams :(
124. 
 10/04/10 12:04am
fuck i miss comps with 16+ teams :(
125. 
 10/04/10 12:11am
hellraiser is actually quite good from what I've seen, I don't know where dreamR is coming from :/
126. 
 10/04/10 11:30am
peterport/hellbangerang MVP
127. 
 10/04/10 01:41pm
I know kEZ but it changes every comp ;p
128. 
 10/04/10 03:39pm
"I thought vojnik was in tna? good pickup for whoever"

Yeah online.
129. 
 10/04/10 03:39pm
and why aren't tNa playing with bish
130. 
 11/04/10 01:24pm
good to see 8 teams signed up!
131. 
 11/04/10 01:34pm
why dont u play amUse
132. 
 11/04/10 01:42pm
not this qual, maybe... qual 2 we'll see!
133. 
 11/04/10 03:33pm
amuse doesn't have enough pocket money to play both :P

jk i love you ;)
134. 
 11/04/10 04:06pm
if anyone needs a 5th im keen.
135. 
 11/04/10 07:07pm
if its only 8 teams do groups of 4 top 2 qual
136. 
 11/04/10 07:30pm
EDITED
If the qual remains at 8 teams, the format will be changed to a round-robin with a grand final (ie. 7 games for each team + the grand final).

But yeh we'll see how many teams there are closer to the date and keep people updated.
137. 
 11/04/10 08:30pm
#136 that would be the best idea EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
138. 
 11/04/10 08:41pm
i love your work david
139. 
 11/04/10 08:44pm
so top2 or top4 play finals? and bo3 finals?
140. 
 11/04/10 08:57pm
top 2, bo3
141. 
 11/04/10 09:58pm
I'm happy to donate $90 but i cant find a team :( sigh at being out of the scene for 4.5years lol!

(the fact that i'm now also terrible may play its part, but CS is about the fun IMO)
142. 
 11/04/10 10:24pm
just make a thread and ask people to slut, or george/davestr1zl whatever should put a note in the thread to see what players are available to slut!
143. 
 11/04/10 11:12pm
im happy to add to the news post people willing to slut / make a slut team if people wish, feel free to pm me and ill add you
144. 
 11/04/10 11:26pm
dont do it i feel like a round robin
145. 
 11/04/10 11:26pm
also how are tNa gunna afford going to brisbane if they get an invite?
146. 
 12/04/10 11:50am
chiz - asking the important questions

so if it remains at 8 teams, its gonna be a min 7games + chance @ bo3 - to much cs IMO

well worth ur money tho ;)
147. 
 12/04/10 12:08pm
yer sounds like another draining day of counter-str1zl
148. 
 12/04/10 06:02pm
whats that meant to mean chiz, we all work...
149. 
 12/04/10 07:26pm
Yeh I didn't really get it either.
150. 
 12/04/10 11:02pm
yerh.....
151. 
 13/04/10 09:47am
Writeup!
152. 
 13/04/10 10:10am
Just quietly, the 8 team round robins we've had at CH are awesome, setup in the morning and stay at the same pc all day. It is a shit load of cs though but a great format imo. Awesome value for money.
153. 
 13/04/10 12:22pm
Yeh that last comp we played was a 8 team round robin aswell. Pretty awesome having same PC for the whole day :D
154. 
 13/04/10 02:13pm
thats the only reason id even lan again the 1 day tournys i fuckin hate 2days its such a waste
155. 
 13/04/10 03:53pm
yeah i'd be keen as for a round robin, but i also like watching other teams aswell :)
156. 
 13/04/10 04:43pm
round robin lo3
157. 
 13/04/10 05:55pm
2 x Groups of 4
Top 2 go through

A1 plays B2 in a bo3
A2 plays B1 in a bo3

Winners play Bo3 Grand Final

Gives break for people, lets people watch games.
158. 
 13/04/10 06:43pm
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Thats not really the best method for a national qualifier, where an accurate 2nd and 3rd (and possibly even 4th, maybe) place are equally as important as 1st.

The other option is to do the finals in the format you suggested as 4-team double elim bo1, as opposed to 4-team single elim bo3.

Imo round-robin is the best choice though, it offers more scrims, more accurately places the teams, and there will be more than enough time to have a 30-45 min lunch break after the 3rd game or so to break it up!
159. 
 13/04/10 07:05pm
true
160. 
 13/04/10 09:07pm
what ever dave does will be the best format imo so just let him sort it out
161. 
 13/04/10 10:40pm
^^ what he said
162. 
 13/04/10 10:58pm
Thanks ^_^, but yeh if it stays at 8 teams, its 100% round-robin with a bo3 final for top 2.

If its anything else ill have to wait and see how many teams it is of course!
163. 
 13/04/10 11:10pm
and if dreamr puts in a fake team to disrupt it all?
164. 
 13/04/10 11:19pm
LOL
165. 
 14/04/10 09:18pm
go the tNa, carn to bring the bink!
166. 
 16/04/10 11:50am
ok well get the groups happening asap. gonna be 8 teams :D
167. 
 16/04/10 01:17pm
If there is any team that wants to play, there's a chance that TNA will be pulling out so sign up.
168. 
 ScM
 16/04/10 02:22pm
were is EMC?/?!
169. 
 16/04/10 02:35pm
EMC will be playing qual 2
170. 
 16/04/10 04:03pm
I might get 5 to replace tNa, ill ask some people.
171. 
 16/04/10 04:58pm
need 1 more for a decent slut team of people looking for fun + a laugh
172. 
 16/04/10 05:03pm
I'm pretty sure dreamR is looking, should get him especially if you want to have fun + a laugh :P
173. 
 16/04/10 08:02pm
nah only join if we don't have 8 teams :) ty





keen for round robin
174. 
 16/04/10 08:13pm
Can slut on sunday, pm here or on IRC
175. 
 16/04/10 08:28pm
Yerp cya round robin you dickhead
176. 
 16/04/10 09:20pm
teddyt and destiny have decided to leave ashock to make a team with dreamr...
177. 
 16/04/10 09:20pm
keep dreaming
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