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Poll: de_train glitch
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30-08-2010 09:19pm


Hey guys, just thinking about a few upcoming comps (including the CGi series) and wanted clarification from you guys about this particular glitch:

Train glitch

I know quite a lot of you know about it, but there's a few that don't (maybe the newer guys only now?) - but from what I've gathered it isn't strictly banned here or anywhere bar IEM (Carmac has said it's not allowed).

So what's your thoughts guys? You have to be mid-crouch to see this, and obviously we know some tight games or rounds such as ecos can be entirely decided by entry frags or reaction times, and this clearly gives the CT (or site holding T) a good 1 second advantage in this situation. Possibly game turning?

What's your opinion, please vote :)

Should this be allowed?
Yes
No
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1. 
 30/08/10 09:20pm
I personally liken it to looking under the wall at vines, but I'm not a competitive player! It's up to you guys :P
2. 
 30/08/10 09:26pm
I don't think its a gamer turner or anything, so it's only useful if t's decide to walk down low ramp
3. 
 30/08/10 09:41pm
not big enough to be banned, that spots really shit aswell, anyone good fires a bullet at that pillar when they get down low ramp
4. 
 30/08/10 10:22pm
EDITED
It's completely different to looking under the wall at vines as you're farther away and they can't shoot you back.

Whereas in this case, even if you shoot them they can shoot you straight away (which is pretty useless) it'd be only useful for goblins.

EDIT: And the players coming down lowramp can see you!
5. 
 30/08/10 10:29pm
while i agree it wasn't how the map was designed to be played, this one is far to minor to even bother. More rules, = more teams challenging = more downtime.

This one definitely should be fine, the looking under the wall from CT ramp, and from minipit on inferno are slightly more major, those are 50/50 depending on tournament.
6. 
 30/08/10 11:56pm
My input:

From that spot, you can get flashed if a flashbang rolls down low ramp and it'll be in the corner of your eye and you'll be poo'd anyhow.
7. 
 30/08/10 11:57pm
EDITED
yes, dont be stupid
8. 
 31/08/10 09:37am
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yeah not big enough to get banned tbh, where does this stop like bomb train outside when you are in dark spot you can look through the train it self too e box (doh i dont cheat!) its too small and really hard to admin if you do ban it
plus inferno site A minipit one
9. 
 pnv
 31/08/10 10:22am
lol ive used that spot many times and it always gets me the 1 frag, sometimes more.

its like not banning the glitch from ctramp looking under the fine crack where u can see people running and u can see all the way to vines. sure this is probably a bigger glitch, but it doesn't negate the fact that its a glitch.

The point is that its an advantage to anyone who uses these spots.
10. 
 31/08/10 02:46pm
the best spot is actually under the train and u have to jump to look through that crack and u have no recoil on your usp.... that said it shouldnt be illegal as if u have a colt they can see your gun and u can get shot from High ramp which (when they are eco) you should be coming out from as well..... more importantly the dark spots on the inside train yard should be banned before this spot... for example the dark spot on the low ramp pillar.... it is impossible to first frag someone crouching on that as they blend in perfectly and are dark.
11. 
 rdd
 31/08/10 05:30pm
Would be too hard to admin.
12. 
 31/08/10 08:08pm
who wrote this? what a waste of time, it is part of the game.
13. 
 01/09/10 01:51pm
EDITED
#12 - so is mwheel +duck, skywalking, 16bit, etc etc.
14. 
 02/09/10 09:30am
If you ban a glitch like this you would be setting a bad precedent. These things make 1.6 interesting~ ;)

15. 
 05/09/10 06:03pm
If you can look under the bomb boxes from minipit in inferno then i don't see any problem looking under a poll in train?
16. 
 06/09/10 08:51am
EDITED
you're looking through that, not under goomBy <3

ps: it's fine
17. 
 06/09/10 10:43am
So, no ban is the community decision.

Interesting to see it was only 60 vs 40 though!

Thanks for your input, I'll make sure community gets votes in all future split decisions like this :)
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