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Top4 Predictions for last DICE Qual
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18-07-2009 01:55am


As the DICE National Cup draws near, this will be the last chance for Melbourne teams to qualify for the finals on August 1st & 2nd. The first round of qualifiers saw Australia GUTS taking out first position in convincing fashion, with Australia BetterIn2005 benefiting from a trickle invite dropped by 2nd place finishers Australia nameless.

Australia v300

Australia kram
Australia c0ke
Australia oxey
Australia sokjin
Australia nameci

v300 are practically a shoe in for the national finals based on their lineup alone. Back in 2006/2007, c0ke, kram & sokjin (I will dub them, the "tripod") represented the best team in Australia and went on a streak of well over 50 consecutive match wins on LAN, which also included 2 National victories, during their time at the top. Likewise their 4th player oxey (plo) has always placed within the high echelons of the Sydney CS scene. Nameci on the other hand has always floated in and out of these superteams, squeezing a match or two between his poker career.

Prediction: 1st

Australia Fragzone

Australia nezza
Australia unleashk
Australia teddyt
Australia ang
Australia chiz

If Fragzone weren't the current ZYM ladder titleholders, there would be no pressure for them coming into this qualifier - they would only have to improve on their last performance under the sublime name where they were knocked out 1-16 by BetterIn2005. But in reality, there is an expectation for them to do well and even qualify.. if they can play with the same confidence they do online. To their credit, Fragzone have already caused a few upsets, which shouldn't come as a surprise with all of them being young, sharp and hungry to make a name for themselves. They're probably still finding their feet with this lineup. A bad result at this qualifier could make or break this team.

Prediction: 2nd

Australia VHM

Australia evolution
Australia nrd
Australia mafu
Australia tidus
Australia redrum_hk

After VHM's embarassing first match loss against last seed FM at the first qualifier, and subsequently losing the "2nd best Asian team in Melbourne" title, they've to vowed to make a second nationals appearance. VHM were last seen LAN pracing rememdi, a collection of Counter-Strike: Source superstars who have discovered a new found love for 1.6. Redrum_HK has also been accepted back into the VHM family, replacing Franny v-spec after he was diagnosed with MCA (Master Chef Addiction).

Audio of Tidus vowing to make the nationals

 

Prediction: 3rd*

Australia khemistry

Australia jing
Australia tnyvo
Australia escuro
Australia namone
Australia hellraiser

Statistically Khemistry players have always placed well in Melbourne LAN competitions, but their most recent 0-16 loss to VHM on the ZYM ladder might have them second guessing themselves. Khemistry will also be acquiring the services of escuro from BetterIn2005. This means should he fail to qualify, he'll be unable to rejoin his old team.

Prediction: 3rd

*3rd best asian team in Melbourne


1. 
 18/07/09 02:00am
thanks for putting the pressure on my youngens.
2. 
 18/07/09 02:02am
"they would only have to improve on their last performance under the sublime name where they were knocked out 1-16 by BetterIn2005."

You say it like its the same team? But its only 2 of us and you could of mention the last time we played a dice team it was 16-1 to us. Ta
3. 
 18/07/09 02:04am
chuck norris cbf shavin' LOL
4. 
 18/07/09 02:04am
5. 
 18/07/09 02:09am
cbf shavin
6. 
 18/07/09 02:09am
nice writeup, LOL @ tidus vent recording cant wait for his response. Heard it from his mouth though bois they're 100% qualifying for this nats, also LOL @ the asterix at the bottom also regarding VHM
7. 
 18/07/09 03:07am
lmafo cbf shaving hahah! classic
8. 
 18/07/09 03:50am
WOW WTF U RECORDED THAT SHIT?! ROFL WAS I DRUNK OR SOMETIHNG ROFLROFLORLF doesnt sound like me at all DEARrrrrrrrrr...
9. 
 18/07/09 03:52am
i swear i sound like kevin (envy)
10. 
 18/07/09 04:11am
HAHAHAHAHHAWTFBOWLY-G HAHAHA
11. 
 18/07/09 09:03am
HAHAAHA CBF SHAVING
12. 
 18/07/09 12:43pm
should point out that oxey's won two nats as well imo
13. 
 18/07/09 01:39pm
i honestly don't feel theres pressure on us because we're number #1 on zym
14. 
 18/07/09 03:23pm
only played like 2 games
15. 
 18/07/09 03:44pm
more teams in the writeup would of been good
16. 
 18/07/09 04:09pm
preferably better information about the teams and not just crap. ie. naming sublime's loss to dice 2 months ago when this team has only 2 members from sublime instead of naming the recent result with this exact lineup beating a dice team 16-1. Also saying theres pressure on us because were ranked 1 on zym? We started #1 and only played 2 average sides (VHM, dice). Cant say were expected to do well since were seeded 5th, were expected to come 5/6th if that's our seed. Anything better we beat our goal.
17. 
 18/07/09 04:57pm
who cares rof just someones opinion ted!~
18. 
 18/07/09 06:23pm
??? we lost to hostile on tuscan u idiot infant
19. 
 18/07/09 07:12pm
so your goal isnt to qual for a nats?
20. 
 18/07/09 07:36pm
EDITED
#16 ted the dice team you beat 16-1 has only 2/5 of the same players as this qual's team, so if thats relevant then so is sublime's results.

And regarding the ZYM ladder, the 2 teams you just said you beat also happen to be the 3rd/4th seeds and 2 of the favourites at this qualifier, so yes there would be pressure.. to repeat those online results - is what i think the writeup was implying (i could be wrong though that was just my take on it).

And a seed is not and has never been an indication of what the final results will be, its purely the starting positions for the teams based off previous results.
21. 
 18/07/09 08:10pm
dave i'd agree with you on everything except your last point

seeds are generally done to aid in competition structure, so that the top participants don't clash in the early rounds; not to arbitrarily award props for previously doing well.
while in most sports, previous results are a good indicator and a fair basis for seeding, you can't really say that it has "never been an indication" of how well a team will do.
22. 
 18/07/09 08:21pm
EDITED
yeh, thats definitely true, but it happens because of the majority of the time the 'good' teams do well previously, thats how they get to be considered to be the 'good' or the 'top' teams, so it works out that way asewll. Just caus ur 3rd seed doesnt mean u will come 3rd, nor does it often mean u will be predicted 3rd by the majority either (although quite often that will be the case).

But ur right yeh me saying it has 'never' been an indication is definitely wrong, because obviously some times it will be, but its never a gauranteed thing or anything like that is what i meant. my bad! :D
23. 
 18/07/09 08:40pm
NUKED
24. 
 18/07/09 08:46pm
1st ill answer uncle fester - If people think we should get a 5th seed, if we do anything better we have done better than expected. As a team our goal is to make nationals. Come 4th or something will be a bad result for us as a team but how can George say we might die if we don't get atleast top2 when were seeded 5th...

and umm nrd are you talking to me?
25. 
 18/07/09 10:36pm
lol ted take it easy. it's predictions, and i predicted you 2nd.

I also said bad result, not "anything under 2nd". as to why I made the comment about "make of break", it's to do with the vast amount of teams you've been in the past
26. 
 18/07/09 11:43pm
lets be friends and group hug
27. 
 19/07/09 12:38am
Seedings are wrong, 35mafia should be at least 2nd seed
28. 
 19/07/09 03:29am
why would us losing to hostile have anything to do with u??? im talking to that chinese infant in vhm
29. 
 19/07/09 08:36am
EDITED
zym ladder results probably shouldnt be counted for a lot seeing as most teams have already racked up a stack of forfeit wins/losses

for example, the top three

fragzone - 2 wins, 2 forfeit wins
.sc - 2 wins, 1 loss, 1 forfeit win
vehement - 2 wins, 3 forfeit wins, 1 loss, 1 forfeit loss

have as many forfeit wins between them as they do actual wins.
30. 
 19/07/09 08:54am
i thought i was the only infant.
31. 
 19/07/09 08:55am
I'm worrying about the reason you predicted us 2nd.. Why would we come 2nd off what you wrote? It makes no difference. But thanks
32. 
 19/07/09 09:07am
SIGH AT THAT FORFEIT LOSS WOW
33. 
 19/07/09 09:23am
AHAHAHAH nrd i was going to pm u guys caus i noticed it was unnacepted but i was out, then i came back and its like forfeit loss and im like LOL bl idiots
34. 
 19/07/09 04:08pm
LOL mothtrap would have had this easily
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